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(Learn about Frienditto)

I tried using Frienditto's built-in search tool to find the friendslocked post(s) I added from my test LJ this evening. Any convenient way of looking for all of your posts that have been archived at Frienditto would be very helpful to those interested in have Frienditto remove material that was archived without their permission.

One: A search by username of the poster would be a very good idea, whether it checks for author's username or greps against the URL that the archiver feeds Frienditto when they submit your post to be archived. It does not seem to be available.

Right now, Frienditto's search checks only the Title and Description (entered by the archivist, not you) of an archived post, but not the URL itself.

Two: Use LiveJournal's built-in search on the Frienditto livejournal to search for your LJ username, to see if it's listed in any of the "this post has been archived on Frienditto" notices. That search, however, is actually an outside service provided by feedster.com, and it searches the RSS feed of your journal, if there is one, not your journal itself.

ETA: Interesting. Four hours ago or less, when I first was browsing the FAQ and submit page and whatnot, there was a link to create a Frienditto account (for $1 or something). That was for the private archive UI I mentioned in my initial post. I can't find it now.

ETA later: Edited in section Two to note that feedster searches RSS feeds.

on 2005-03-05 04:26 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] shiningmoon.livejournal.com
I think they're probably getting a lot of, er, attention right now.

Yeah

on 2005-03-05 04:33 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] applecameron.livejournal.com
Probably. Probably. The legal policy wasn't there at all when I started, I think. And the FAQ has changed, too, in tone and about a third/a half-ish of the content.
Posted by [identity profile] gmth.livejournal.com
And the FAQ has changed, too, in tone and about a third/a half-ish of the content.

I was wondering about that, myself. I could have *sworn* I saw a statement somewhere on their FAQ that basically said "We will never, EVER remove content that has been submitted to us, so don't even bother to ask." Now they're saying they will remove content if the copyright holder makes "a proper request" (whatever the heck that means).

I so hate that this has even become an issue. Thanks for all your research on the matter.
Posted by [identity profile] applecameron.livejournal.com
No prob! I wish I'd copied down the FAQ the first time I saw it.

I could see the question of "proper request" going around in circles: "well, prove that you're the LJ user in question by giving us your real name or something".

Bah.

You don't need that to prove that you're the LJ user in question, just post to your LJ your request that Frienditto remove stuff, and then email them the URL for that post. (frienditto-ing the request would be a little too self-referential...)
Posted by [identity profile] jameth.livejournal.com
No, a "proper request" is something that a copyright holder does when they know that their copyright has been infringed upon. So, if someone is claiming that they hold the copyright to a LiveJournal post and that same post is copied to Frienditto, that person should know the proper legal channels to go through in order to get the post removed. Google can assist in this matter, as it is something that any non-lawyerly person can do.
Posted by [identity profile] jameth.livejournal.com
DMCA complaint. Try looking it up on Google.

on 2005-03-06 12:42 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jameth.livejournal.com
300000 hits in one day. I think like 20000 were unique

on 2005-03-06 10:30 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lherelenfeline.livejournal.com
The LJ policy is that LJ content is copyright of author, thus, anything friendittoed without permission is copyright infringement. One doesn't need to be a lawyer to figure THAT out. Now if enough people get together for a class action, the fur will really fly. Never mind the harrasment statutes and the like.

on 2005-03-06 04:58 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jameth.livejournal.com
"Hello, lawyer? Yes, somebody copied our Internet diaries onto another site. Can you please take our case?"

Good luck with that.

on 2005-03-06 06:06 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] lherelenfeline.livejournal.com
Hello DA, a group of individuals has illegaly copied and distributed my writings from my weblog, moreover the same entities are known for stalking and harrasment. Seeing that there's case precedent in NYC, I doubt those afected would need to hire a lawyer.

on 2005-03-06 06:29 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jameth.livejournal.com
Ok, then call the DA and have fun with that.

Also... Who's known for stalking and harassment? What entities?

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