Vengeful and Awake

[applecameron]

*grrrrrr*

Apparently, they're cutting down a tree in the courtyard. (Yesterday, I thought, "apparently, they're trimming a tree". Current data indicates this is no longer the case.) Said arbor is directly between my bedroom and my office windows and a couple meters from the apartment wall.

Chainsaw. 8 am. I retired for bed at 2 am after doing some web page checking for a friend of mine.

Just for the record? A chainsaw in the morning is worse than a gas-powered leafblower, which was both yesterday's and Monday's wake-up noise. All things, i.e., my bedtime, being equal.

I need a good, verbose, cussing language. English is too curt, I want something lyrical, where, may parasites gnaw your intestines from inside-out for a thousand years, or gods curse you with skin-devouring necrotic bacteria and a desperate mini-cam news crew is considered "a little short, but OK in a pinch".

Comments

[elke-tanzer.livejournal.com]

Does it matter whether the recipient of the curse understands it or not? If not, there are more options, of course... {{{hugs}}}

Not at all

[applecameron.livejournal.com]

As long as *I* understand what I'm saying, they don't have to comprehend. (In fact, I get bonus points, then, I think.) These poor schmoes are Mexicano, so there's a higher lyricism standard at work if it *is* in a language we both comprehend. But I'd rather curse their bosses.

Middle English? Latin has never seemed a language with a strong cussing tradition, but maybe I need more study (hm...'impotent cow'...'debilus taurinus'...hm, again).

!! About a quarter of the tree just landed on the ground. *wince* The earth moved, and I don't mean that in a good way. I keep waiting for shit to crash through my window.

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[elke-tanzer.livejournal.com]

Well, I was kind of thinking about Klingon... but those insults are best backed up with sharp pointy curved weaponry. ;-)

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[applecameron.livejournal.com]

I have those.

<-- points at icon and clears throat meaningfully.

Well, not curved, come to think of it.

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[cereta.livejournal.com]

Oh, Latin has some lovely curses. May I recommend Catullus's opening, "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo?" Translation provided upon request ;).

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[applecameron.livejournal.com]

Give me head and I'll ass fuck you? ( I'm new to whole sentences in Latin, I did cheat when I couldn't find 'pedicabo' in the dictionary.)

I rather liked

Bibe meum semenum e baculo (drink my semen from a cup) over at Swearsaurus. Heh. It's the cup that makes me chuckle, rather like 'Christ on a pogo stick'.

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[cereta.livejournal.com]

Close ;). It's "I'll ass-fuck you and make you blow me." Irrumabo always has an element of compulsion to it - hence the insult "irrumabator" for "one who compels others to fellate him," or more coloquially, "one who treats others with contempt."

(And if you think this is sad, I'll spare you the long conversation about active and passive sexual verbs a friend and I had in the Las Vegas airport while discussing that particular term ;).

I like the one you mention, though.

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[applecameron.livejournal.com]

Ah.

Is the element of compulsion par for the course for sexual verbs used in the passive voice, or does it vary?

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[cereta.livejournal.com]

It was more the observation that we could not find a literal English word for "one who is fellated," or for the act of being fellated, that led to the observation that, in English, fellatio is the only sexual act for which the active verb is assigned to the one being penetrated. This led to an attempt to create a verb for such based on Latin roots. It was several minutes before we realized that the people in line with us were very pointedly NOT staring in a mixture of horror and amusement.

Language geeks should not be allowed to travel together.

[ajodasso.livejournal.com]

Middle and Early Modern English aren't that bad, if you want to keep it native. If not, allow me to suggest German: my best friend in junior high used to whisper translations of her father's colorful cursing to me, of which one such phrase translated to the following:

Heaven's ass and goat cheese!

There were several more complex ones that I have since forgotten.

I should study harder, I see.

[applecameron.livejournal.com]

Now, how come we didn't cover cussing in my high school German class? (OK, *that* was a strictly rhetorical question.) I can say 'shit' in 4 different languages, but there's never much coverage of anything more um...socially complex in foreign language class.

They've got some other machine out there, turning the tree stump into mulch. It's not as bad as the chainsaws.

Do someone know these curses auf Deutch? Because I'm a purist.

[ajodasso.livejournal.com]

Drawing upon my buried two years of German and how the memory of it sounds, I believe it was Himmelasche und Ziegekäse.

[valarltd.livejournal.com]

Orcish, definitely orcish. Nicely satisfying gutterals.

Russian isn't bad either. Especially if you shout something lengthy like the recipe for blintzes. It's got a satisfying mouthfeel and thoroughly intimidates your opponents.

German is good. German is eminantly suited to swearing.

[tobiascharity.livejournal.com]

(followed this from therealjae's friends list. just letting you know from which point in the sky i dropped.)

Polish is a great language to curse in..."May your children rot in a bed of shit!" is my favorite, though "The ghosts of my fathers will haunt your bastard sons for all eternity" is really pretty when said in Polish. And some words are so gutteral that you spew saliva everywhere. don't know if you want that.

Spanish...you mostly just call them unpleasant body parts, ie scrotum or armpit or pubic hair.

OOooo! Teach me!

[applecameron.livejournal.com]

I like both of those. Where can I learn 'em proper, in Polish?

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[tobiascharity.livejournal.com]

well, the bed of shit one is "pani dzieci byc przniĆ na od koryto rzeki ze gÓwno" and, phonetically, is said as "PAIN-ee de-ZEE-chee bike praise-NICHE nah ode CORY-toe raise-KEE zee GOW--no." and the ghosts and bastard sons one is difficult to type out but is said phonetically as "dike-NINE vat-ZIN-con ARCH-gown vart ut kon zach-VI-bike." fun stuff.

don't know where, online, you could learn other curses in Polish...these are from years of listening to my parents and grandparents curse.

Yeah, baby

[applecameron.livejournal.com]

Get a load of this:

http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/

Just reading the German section out loud made me feel better, not just because I can still parse a lot of it, even though I studied it in high school...17 years ago. (eek!)